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<h2 id="titleh" class="TText" style="font-wight:normal;">The "Deepin is spyware" problem</h2>
<div id="datetags" class="TText" style="margin-bottom:1em;">2018-04-17<br>#linux #garbage #sophistry</div>
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<p>
WARNING: this article contains strong words. Beware.
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<p>
Nowadays we can get in touch with people thousands of miles away really
easily, which is not even imaginable just a few decades ago. Thanks to
that, I visit reddit regularly and found some dispute about the only
"sane" Chinese Linux distro arouse:
</p>
<blockquote>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v25Dy66AtNI">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v25Dy66AtNI
</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tllqWzO8Bqw">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tllqWzO8Bqw
</a>
</blockquote>
<p>
Although I've never actually used Deepin as my daily driver, nor am I
affiliated with the company that develops it, seeing Chinese being
discredited in these posts made me want to say something for Deepin.
However I found that I had literally nothing to say.
</p>
<p>
Dispite of the clickbait nature of the video's title, deploying tracking
code without notifying the user is blaspheming the user's trust in the
software. However what really triggered me is their offical statement:
</p>
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<p>
Recently, there is saying that Linux Deepin is spyware. The logic is that Deepin has cnzz.com links in its website and Appstore, and since cnzz will collect some client information in the browser, thus Linux Deepin is spyware. It is really a serious problem, since nobody wants to have his/her private information leaked, as in the Facebook event.
</p>
<p>
Deepin has to inform all those interested that our Appstore backend is a website and cnzz is a famous internet statistics analysis service provider that collects website anonymous usage information such as browser user agents, resolution, etc. and which is just a same product as Google Analytics. Deepin uses cnzz to collect website access information and so to know how to improve our website experience and detect website problems. No private information can be collected this way just by the data above mentioned.
</p>
<p>
We hope this clarifies the spyware thing above and make the promise again that Deepin has not collected user private information in the past and will not collect user private information in the future.
</p>
Enjoy Linux Deepin~
</blockquote>
<p>
This is utter nonsense. And it's even worse than nothing. It is same as
saying "you dumbass chose to trust us and this is what you deserve."
</p>
<p>
Also someone on reddit pointed out that Deepin comes with Google Chrome
preinstalled and they distribute it from their own servers (almost
certainly without Google's permission), which is explictly prohibited
in the EULA of Google Chrome. What they could thinking should be like
"fuck those legal stuff. Google won't give us a shit and let's provide
maximum convience to our users!".
</p>
<p>
So you might be wondering why I still refer it as "the only sane Chinese
distro". Well, you might agree if you know something about other Chinese
distros such as Start OS and Kylin OS. The latter is essentially the
Chinese version of the Red Star OS. It has a very Windows 7-ish look
and feel, which can be described as photocopying.
</p>
<p>
Start OS (formerly known as ylmf OS) has a similiar history as Linux
Deepin: they both emerged from organizations that produced pirated
Windows XP using Ghost from Symentec. They started their own OS after
the largest organization doing pirated Windows copies was taken down by the
government. Start OS has been inactive for quite some time though.
</p>
<p>
Deepin, however, really made some progress. At least they are developing
decent software, not applying a Windows XP theme on Ubuntu and rebrand it.
I actually used components from Deepin on my Debian machine for over a
year (until KDE finally revamped their counterparts). Deepin managed to get
a stable and fairly large user base. Then they seemed start doing what
every single Chinese technology company have done: making software use the
user. (In China, you don't use computer. The computer uses you! Seems
familiar, right?)
</p>
<blockquote>
Even though I am Chinese, I found some Chinese companies being over
ambitious disturbing. And some of them don't really comply with the rules.
(GPL violations of Allwinner and Xiaomi are infamous examples.)
</blockquote>
<p>
Above is an excerpt from my unposted reply to the reddit post. The Chinese
government seems acquiescent with that, for its own purposes. Shame on that.
</p>
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But trustworthy Chinese still exist, right?
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